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Entrepreneur vs. Employee: Which Path is Right for Aspiring Hardscapers?

Every hardscaper faces a big decision at the start of their career: should you begin by building your own business or gain experience by first working for someone else?

Both routes have their pros and cons. Running your own company means independence, but also risk; working as an employee offers stability and mentorship, but less freedom.

If you’re an aspiring hardscaper wondering where to begin, advice from a few industry professionals can help you find the path that fits your personality, goals, and lifestyle.

Learning Then Leading

Dan Hughes, President of Segmental Systems Inc., spent nine years working for a landscape company before eventually purchasing an established hardscape business. That time as an employee was an education.

“I constantly observed how things were done, good and bad, and compared it all to other companies in the area,” Hughes said. “I learned all the basics of landscaping, sprinklers, different construction methods, and even some landscape maintenance.”

More importantly, he gained crucial management experience.

“The longer I was there, the more experience I got running/managing crews, dealing with customers, knowing what we needed for supplies for the day, planning for the next several days, equipment repair and usage,” he said.

However, Hughes is candid about what he didn’t learn as an employee.

“What I never learned was sales, estimating, overhead, payroll, taxes, and the business end of it all,” he said.

When Hughes started working for Segmental Systems with the intent to purchase it, the owner made it his mission to teach him as much as he could during the transition.

Looking back, Hughes appreciates the foundation his employment years provided, but he also acknowledges the value of buying into an established operation.

“You avoid the struggles of having to do all the work yourself while still trying to find work and build a business. That’s a tall hurdle and I applaud those who have done it successfully. It’s a grind to get there for sure. But buying something existing, partnering up with an established business allows you to focus on building and making things better rather on fighting to survive,” Hughes said.

“…If I were to do it all over again, I would definitely work in the trade for a quality contractor and look to buy in or out that company. Starting from scratch is quite risky, and extremely volatile in the dips in the economy.”

Finding the Right Employer

Weston Zimmerman, founder of SynkedUP, experienced a transformative shift in how he viewed employment, one that ultimately prepared him for entrepreneurship.

Starting as a teenager at Tussey Landscaping installing water features and koi ponds, Zimmerman admits he was initially “your average employee” who “worked hard when I was there, but I wanted the Fridays off and I wanted to go do this, I want to go do that.”

Everything changed after he got married and his priorities shifted. At an Aquascape convention in Chicago, hungry to make more money, he approached CEO Greg Wittstock about job opportunities.

“He looked at me like I had three heads,” Zimmerman said. “And I said, ‘Well, I just want to make more money,’ and you can see that he had heard this 100 times. He said, ‘Go back and talk to your boss and ask him what can you do to make the company more money, so that you can make more money.’”

Zimmerman never looked at employment the same way again.

“My mindset, my perspective as an employee shifted forever from that moment on,” he said.

That shift led Zimmerman to become not just a crew lead, but also Director of Marketing at Tussey, launching their social media presence, YouTube content, filming and editing, and managing their website.

Both Zimmerman emphasizes that not all employment experiences are created equal.

“There’s a key ingredient that has to exist and that is the owner of that company has to be willing to give you the autonomy. I could’ve had the exact same story at Tussey Landscaping, but with a different owner that wasn’t willing to give me the rope to climb and it would’ve failed for both of us,” Zimmerman said.

Instead, Zimmerman was able to really have a seat at the table at Tussey and started to offer ideas for business processes and process optimization. That experience eventually led him to founding SynkedUP, a software company that’s transforming how hardscaping businesses operate.

“I actually would probably encourage going and working for someone for a while, but I would also say in the same way that the employer is interviewing you, in your own mind be interviewing the employer,” Zimmerman said. “If you’re going to work for someone, be considerate and thoughtful about who you’re choosing to work for because that’s a key part of the equation in making that successful.”

Built for Independence

Outside of three years in the military, Gary Stowe, President of Stowe Contracting, Inc., has worked for himself since he was 13. For him, entrepreneurship isn’t just a preference, it’s a necessity.

“I’m not a good employee,” Stowe said. “That’s kind of what people need to understand if they want to go in business. It can’t be, ‘I’d like to go in business.’ It’s, ‘I have to go in business.’”

Stowe’s career path in hardscaping has been unconventional. With a nursing degree and three years in the Army, he spent a decade running an auto repair shop before transitioning to construction in the late 1980s. But while these fields seem widely varied, Stowe said they all really come down to his passion for fixing things.

Each career shift also taught him something valuable about business operations, pricing, and customer relationships, lessons that helped him build a successful hardscaping company.

One pivotal lesson came during his struggling years in the auto repair business. Working 70-hour weeks, he accompanied his wife to their accountant for tax preparation. The accountant looked at their returns and said, “You know, you can apply for food stamps if you want.”

“That was kind of an epiphany for me,” Stowe said. The turning point came when he realized he needed to bid jobs properly and account for real overhead costs. “You can’t look at the job—the parts, the pieces of the job, the labor it takes to do the job—that’s only one small part of it. You’ve got overhead of just being in business, and you have to recognize that.”

For Stowe, the appeal of entrepreneurship is clear.

“The ability to make your own decisions, the flexibility to do that. The ability to turn down customers if it becomes necessary, to pick and choose who your customers are, the type of work you want to do,” he said.

He acknowledges the demands are real and that it is not a traditional 9-5 job. He keeps a notepad by his bed because he wakes up thinking about work and he stresses the constant planning and organization required to run a company. But despite the challenges, he’s found deep satisfaction in his path.

“It’s a very fulfilling lifestyle. It’s a great way to employ yourself and others,” he said. “It gives you a great deal of satisfaction, and it’s well worth all the heartache that you go through.”

The Employee’s Path

Elias Null, Optimas Specialist at Pave Tool, pushes back against the cultural assumption that entrepreneurship is the only path to success or fulfillment.

“Society pushes to have your own business and be your own boss. And that’s great! That really is awesome, but different personalities are different, and you don’t actually need to be your own boss to have a good life,” Null said.

For him, the focus isn’t on titles or ownership, it’s on personal growth.

“The goal for myself would be to be the best version of myself that I can be,” he said. “Life is like a creek, and if you’re just sitting on a creek in a kayak or canoe, you’re going to end up downstream. You have to stay rowing upstream if you’re going to have a better life.”

Null’s perspective is a reminder that career success isn’t one-size-fits-all. For those who thrive in structured environments and prefer to focus on craft over business operations, the employee route can be just as rewarding.

Finding Your Path Forward

Determining the right path for you really depends on honest self-assessment. Consider these questions:

  • Are you willing to learn the business side? As Hughes and Stowe discovered, field skills alone won’t sustain a company. You need to understand estimating, overhead, taxes, and cash flow or be willing to learn.
  • Are you energized or drained by business management tasks? If paperwork, bidding, payroll, and planning excite you—or at least don’t exhaust you—entrepreneurship might fit. If you’d rather focus purely on the craft, employment could be your path.
  • How do you handle uncertainty and financial pressure? Hughes notes that even with an established company, “there were a few times where work was sparse. Very stressful when you have a fairly large monthly payment on a business.” Can you weather those storms?
  • Do you need autonomy to be happy? Stowe’s realization that he couldn’t work for others came from recognizing his personality. Some people thrive with structure and clear expectations; others suffocate under them.
  • Can you find the right mentor? Both Zimmerman and Hughes benefited enormously from employers willing to invest in their growth. If you choose employment, choose carefully.

There’s no single right answer. The hardscaping industry has room for all approaches.

Whether you choose to work for a quality contractor, buy into an existing business, or strike out on your own from day one, success comes down to dedication, continuous learning, and being honest about who you are and what you need to thrive.

The Surprising Skill That Will Set You Apart in Hardscaping: Making a Phone Call!

If you’re looking to break into the hardscaping industry, you might have been focused on learning the technical skills, such as how to lay pavers, build retaining walls, operate equipment, or studying materials or sales techniques.

But there’s one skill that could set you apart from other job candidates and make you incredibly valuable to potential employers from day one – the ability to pick up the phone and actually talk to people.

Why This Skill Makes You Instantly Valuable

According to Vanessa McQuade, a marketing expert who works extensively with landscape and hardscaping professionals, “It seems super basic. But that is a huge thing. People are scared of the phone.”

McQuade has access to extensive call tracking data across the hardscaping industry, and what she’s discovered should get your attention.

“One of the biggest things for landscapers and hardscapers is they’re not picking up their phone,” she said.

Business owners are literally losing money because they can’t or won’t handle incoming calls properly.

Even when many professionals do answer their phones, they can miss crucial opportunities.

“If they do pick it up, just answering with a really nice voice makes all the difference,” McQuade said.

That first interaction sets the tone for everything that follows.

Standing Out in the Hiring Process

As a marketer, when McQuade asks hardscaping professionals what makes them different from their competitors, she’s looking for unique selling points.

One response that doesn’t come up nearly often enough? “We pick up our phone.”

“It honestly, is a huge difference,” she says. “It can be a good way to stand out among the crowd.”

As a job seeker, you can use this same principle.

When you’re interviewing for hardscaping positions, most candidates will talk about their physical abilities, their willingness to work hard, or their basic knowledge of the industry.

But imagine being able to tell a potential employer, “I understand that phone communication is crucial to your business success. I’m comfortable speaking with customers, I can represent your company professionally, and I know that every call could be worth thousands of dollars to your bottom line.”

If you can position yourself as someone who understands these challenges and has the skills to help solve them, you become much more than just another hire.

How to Develop This Skill Now

Particularly for Gen Z job seekers, there has not been as much opportunity to practice making and receiving telephone calls. It’s no longer the main function of phones. While people can do basically anything on their phone, the default is texting or voice notes or online chats.

Before you even have a job in hardscaping, you can work on developing your phone communication skills by doing the following:

  • Practice professional phone etiquette. Encourage friends or family to call you and work on answering calls with enthusiasm and clarity. Your greeting should immediately convey professionalism and helpfulness.
  • Learn to ask good questions. Practice gathering information over the phone. You’ll need this if you need to ask about projects, timelines, and customer needs in your hardscaping role.
  • Understand the business impact. Study how customer communication affects hardscaping business success so you can speak intelligently about it during interviews.
  • Role-play customer scenarios. Practice handling different types of calls – initial inquiries, follow-ups, scheduling, and problem-solving – with friends, family members, or other job seekers.

Your comfort with this skill can be a game-changer. When you walk into an interview, you’re offering to solve a real business problem that’s costing hardscaping companies money every day.

Your technical skills will develop with experience, but your ability to communicate professionally with customers is something you can master right now. It might just be the skill that gets you hired!

Transforming Public Spaces: Inside European Pavers Southwest’s Award-Winning Hardscape at Scottsdale Civic Center Plaza

The Scottsdale Civic Center Plaza, a nine-acre public gathering space in downtown Scottsdale, Arizona, has been a community cornerstone for over 50 years. As part of a $27.5 million bond-funded renovation, the plaza underwent a complete overhaul to modernize its infrastructure and aesthetics while enhancing its year-round usability.

European Pavers Southwest played a crucial role in transforming this urban oasis, earning national recognition for their work. Their efforts were celebrated at the 2024 Hardscape North America (HNA) Awards, where they took home the top prize in the Segmental Concrete Pavement – Commercial (less than 15,000 sf) category. The event recognized outstanding hardscape projects from 215 submissions across 19 categories.

European Pavers has built up a reputation for municipal work, especially in Arizona, and she was thrilled when they were selected to take on this Scottsdale project.

“It was a huge project,” Kimberly Miller, President of European Pavers Southwest, said. “It’s our reputation. We’ve been here for so long in Arizona and throughout the Southwest. People know our workmanship. They know that we return our phone calls. They know we show up for punch lists. They know we’re honest,” Miller said.

Reimagining an Iconic Public Space

Scottsdale Civic Center Plaza consists of nine acres of pristine open public space constructed over 50 years ago in the heart of downtown Scottsdale, Arizona. With a bond-funded $27.5 million budget, the Civic Center Plaza Renovation Project included upgraded utilities, regraded and drained landscapes, and newly installed hardscapes. Key additions include two multi-functional stages, restroom facilities, a children’s play area with a mist-fog system, and expansive pedestrian walkways designed with eye-catching pavers. 

European Pavers Southwest worked on four distinct areas of the revamped plaza. Their award-winning section spans 4,800 square feet and showcases an intricate series of concentric and patterned circles crafted with various types of stones and permeable pavers.

The project took about four weeks to complete. The visually striking design required technical precision, expert craftsmanship, and honest feedback. These are the qualities that have built the company’s impressive reputation throughout Arizona and the Southwest.

Crafting for Community Impact

Miller finds deep satisfaction in contributing to public works that the entire community can enjoy.

“I love those jobs because they’re so high profile,” she said. “It’s something that somebody’s going to see.”

The plaza’s pavers, supplied by Ackerstone, perfectly complemented the design vision crafted by the City of Scottsdale. This collaborative effort highlights how hardscaping goes beyond construction—it’s an art form that can redefine public spaces.

With a complete overhaul, the site’s new layout is designed so that all nine acres of the plaza can be utilized throughout the year. The existing hardscape was removed, and an extensive grading operation lowered the grade by as much as six feet in some areas. Several hills were moved to enhance the view of the park. New decorative hardscape and pedestrian walkways—a combination of concrete and pavers—made this linear civic space more inviting to users and visitors. 

A Surprising Win

With 215 project submissions across 19 categories, the 2024 Hardscape North America (HNA) Awards showcased hardscaping excellence in materials such as concrete pavers, clay bricks, retaining walls, adhered thin veneers, porcelain, natural stone, and vintage installations.

European Pavers Southwest took home the top prize in the Segmental Concrete Pavement – Commercial (less than 15,000 sf) category for its work on the Scottsdale Civic Center Plaza.

Despite their stellar work, the European Pavers team was genuinely surprised when their project was announced as the first-place winner.

Because of the way they saw the boards displayed at HNA, they thought they had gotten fourth place and the photos were just being shown as additional project examples.

“Needless to say, we were all shocked!” European Pavers posted on Facebook with the announcement of their win.

Inspiring the Next Generation of Hardscapers

European Pavers Southwest’s success at the HNA Awards proves that hardscaping is more than laying stones—it’s about shaping environments, telling stories through design, and leaving lasting legacies.

For aspiring hardscapers, projects like Scottsdale Civic Center Plaza show how creativity and craftsmanship can blend into something truly remarkable.

As Miller summed up, “We take pride in what we do. Saying I’m proud of my team is an understatement.”

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